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The RPC is fucked up and it's our fault for letting toxic people join our communities and allowing them to misbehave, brushing it to the side thinking it will fix itself in the end. It hasn't. Then they cry wolf whenever their bad behaviors are pointed out. We should stop sympathizing with these toxic roleplayers, and start calling them what they are. Bad roleplayers. Start kicking these people out and stop forgiving them. They don't deserve it. They will destroy you, and whatever circles you are in. Whether that be in Discord RP Groups or Tumblr RP Groups. It starts with bubbling, it starts with these dick measuring contest, and these incessant needs to be the center of attention. Give them nothing. They deserve nothing until they can behave better. If they want to act like middle schoolers. Treat them like it.
#roleplay#discord rp#discord#ooc#drama#vent#toxic roleplayers#roleplayers#rpc#roleplay drama#roleplayer drama#rp discourse#roleplay discourse#discourse#discord discourse
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Writing Intimacy
i often see writers sharing a sentiment of struggling with writing kiss scenes which honestly bleeds into other portrayals of physical intimacy. i see it a lot in modernized styles of writing popularized by the recent trend in publishing to encourage short, choppy sentences and few adverbs, even less descriptive language. this makes intimacy come across awkward, like someone writing a script or clumsy recounting of events rather than a beautiful paragraph of human connection.
or just plane horniness. but hey, horny doesn't have to be mutually exclusive with poetic or sensual.
shallow example: they kissed desperately, tongues swirling and she moaned. it made her feel warm inside.
in depth example: she reached for the other woman slowly and with a small measure of uncertainty. the moment her fingers brushed the sharp, soft jaw of her companion, eliza's hesitance slid away. the first kiss was gentle when she finally closed the distance between them. she pressed her lips lightly to gabriella's in silent exploration. a tender question. gabriella answered by meeting her kiss with a firmer one of her own. eliza felt the woman's fingers curling into her umber hair, fingernails scraping along her scalp. everything inside eliza relaxed and the nervousness uncoiled from her gut. a warm buzz of energy sunk through her flesh down to the very core of her soul. this was right. this was always where she needed to be.
the first complaint i see regards discomfort in writing a kiss, feeling like one is intruding on the characters. the only way to get around this is to practice. anything that makes you uncomfortable in writing is something you should explore. writing is at its best when we are pushing the envelope of our own comfort zones. if it feels cringy, if it feels too intimate, too weird, too intrusive, good. do it anyway! try different styles, practice it, think about which parts of it make you balk the most and then explore that, dissect it and dive into getting comfortable with the portrayal of human connection.
of course the biggest part comes to not knowing what to say other than "they kissed" or, of course, the tried and true "their lips crashed and their tongues battled for dominance" 😐. so this is my best advice: think beyond the mouth. okay, we know their mouths are mashing. but what are their hands doing? are they touching one another's hair? are they scratching or gripping desperately at one another? are they gliding their hands along each other's body or are they wrapping their arms tightly to hold each other close? do they sigh? do they groan? do they relax? do they tense? are they comfortable with each other or giddy and uncertain? is it a relief, or is it bringing more questions? is it building tension or finally breaking it?
get descriptive with the emotions. how is it making the main character/pov holder feel? how are they carrying those emotions in their body? how do they feel the desire in their body? desire is not just felt below the belt. it's in the gut, it's in the chest, it's in the flushing of cheeks, the chills beneath the skin, the goosebumps over the surface of the flesh. everyone has different pleasure zones. a kiss might not always lead desire for overtly sexual touches. a kiss might lead to the desire for an embrace. a kiss might lead to the impulse to bite or lick at other areas. a kiss could awaken desire to be caressed or caress the neck, the shoulder, the back, the arms etc. describe that desire, show those impulses of pleasure and affection.
of course there is the tactile. what does the love interest taste like? what do they smell like? how do they kiss? rough and greedy? slow and sensual? explorative and hesitant? expertly or clumsily? how does it feel to be kissed by them? how does it feel to kiss them?
i.e. examine who these individuals are, what their motives and feelings are within that moment, who they are together, what it looks like when these two individuals come together. a kiss is not about the mouth. it's about opening the door to vulnerability and desire in one's entire body and soul.
#writing help#writing tips#writing advice#how to write#on writing#fanfic advice#writing#creative writing#writing process#roleplay advice#rp advice#rp tips#*shrugs* twitter discourse brought me here
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Circle of protection against capitalism
#rpg#roleplaying games#D&D#fantasy#spell idea#the best part is when you post it it doubles as “summon discourse”
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thoughts on rp and my rules on them :3
(dont have to follow these as there my opinion qwq)
TW:NSFW MENTIONED
1.what type of rp is okay? :3
Any type of rp as long as it consensual though in my thoughts nsfw rps should be between adults(or maybe teens(15+? Or 16+)) who consent to that :D
2.is it okay to rp with someone younger/older than me? (@_@;)
Depands as it can be okay as long as done in the right setting though my thumb of rule is if too young than no go if too old than go find a trusted adult :3
3.is there a way to rp safely with someone younger/older than me? ( ・◇・)?
Yes there are here are some ways to do it safely for all partys :DDD
let start with just a year or month old gap this depands on how old you are but it normally safe to do though if your both under 15/16 it best to avoid nsfw rping ^w^
But what if im rp with someone older/younger than me by alot? ( ´-`)
it best to ether stop if the age gap is like 13~16 and 21~24 as no sane adult should want to rp with someone who in middle/high school those are 2 different stages of life qwq but if you wish to go on with it than i say join a server with other people in it so it safe for both partys ( ノ^ω^)ノ
though this may change if you are in the same rping group with them and are rping in the open or if it rping with alot of people you cant tell everyones age though it always best to keep things sfw unless said otherwaise :3
(This part was super long i am sorrys qwq)
4.is it okay for minors under 13 to rp? ?(・_・;?
Yes as long as it sfw and both partys want to as rp is for everyone no matter the age and can help them make friends and learn how to write while it is fun (*^▽^)/★*☆♪
(Sidenote i dont think -13 should be able to be online without the protection of an adult that they trust, probably should be their parent or sibling and not some random adult qwq)
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Another art related comment: I am once again begging the CR fandom to be normal about aging.
People get crows feet in their late 20s/early 30s, people can start to go gray in their 30s (and earlier!), none of this is “premature” and it will happen to you one day, embrace it.
#critical role#cr discourse#for a fandom watching people approaching their 50s roleplay these characters#people sure get weird as hell when their drawn looking older than 20
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"Guy who acts like you're personally oppressing them when you acknowledge the existence of tabletop RPGs that aren't Dungeons & Dragons" versus "guy who's like 'oh my god, just play a different game', but then their rec list consists exclusively of Dungeons & Dragons clones" – fight!
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I feel like some of you guys forget that ctommy, in the end, is just some guy's OC. A well played and interesting one that you can absolutely connect with, but he's an OC. Holding him to the standard of characters in Tv and movies and expecting that level of complexity and sensitivity, instead of viewing him as a character made by a teenager to roleplay with, is sorta weird.
He's reacting like that because he's looking at his old oc guys, have you never looked at your old characters and laughed? I have! He was also sentimental and acknowlaged the emotional impact it had on people. He had tears in his eyes at the end of the video essay, of course he cares about the character. He cried when he went on the dsmp again for the first time in years. He says it was good, and he thinks it's good people are still into it! (Speaking of I really hope he releases the world download)
I love ctommy and I love what the community has done with him, but after watching the video I struggle to see what people find wrong with it. This is probably how you would feel if the character you roleplayer as with your buddies blew up on a massive scale like that.
#discourse#sorry to do dsmp discourse in 2024 but this is making me go ????#why are we critiquing tommy for treating ctommy the way a lot of people treat their OCs?#You people would never survive the trenches of aminoapp semi literate roleplay
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Omegle is dead. RIP to a generational gem.
For those of you who used it for fandom roleplay, EmeraldChat is a good, similar alternative. You can add interests in the same way, and there are additional options like sending images and saving chats.
#omegle#fandom#roleplay#RP#marvel#stray kids#DC#music#roleplaying#sephiroth speaks#myfandomrealitea#not discourse#stranger things
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So after others have established before and throughout Season 2 that portraying Armand as a sexually undesirable man who can't satisfy Louis, with Louis constantly thinking about Lestat any time they get physical and wishing it were him instead, and how Lestat would NEVER touch Armand with a ten-foot pole, ew, is racist and a negative portrayal of South Asian men, I now see people are getting comfortable making 'funny' posts/edits again about Louis needing to be saved by Lestat's dick and "manliness". Loumand suffers from bed death, not because Armand killed his daughter or Louis is grieving, but because Armand isn't a real man and can't top.
#armand#iwtv discourse#fandom racism#iwtv#interview with the vampire#i was wondering what my other mutuals/followers thought about this because yeahhhh#louis is now the type of person to despair to lestat mock armand's supposed impotency and how he was forced to top for 77 years#this theory coming from one consensual roleplay they did in paris (which apparently was forced on either louis or armand so what do i know)#and people confusing dom with someone who only tops#and the top/bottom fixation was already weird enough#like where's that post that's like 'your dad is more normal about gay people than tumblr is'#i get homophobic tradwife louis who pines for lestat and degrades a moc with him/because of him is supposed to be a joke but#is it actually funny?
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what fucking boundaries 😭 jaiden has never said anything about character shipping?? nor has she ever identified as romance repulsed?? how far do you have to reach up your own ass to pull shit like this out of
#icarus speaks#discourse#she’s non-romantic. very obviously. but that doesn’t mean repulsed??#also even being romance-repulsed irl doesn’t mean you can’t roleplay romance#like. sometimes people just don’t want romance onto Them. a character is a different story#just be fucking normal jesus 😭
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like look i know im a dsmpolo but it is genuinely really interesting to me to see people talk abt the dsmp like, "oh it wasnt meant to be that srs and mc roleplay just isnt that deep and" like no, it was? dsmp was lighthearted in a lot of ways, yeah, but it definitely had its more hard-hitting moments? it wasn't just written to be haha funny meaningless jokes all the way through? dsmp is a sum of all its parts, the fooling around and the scripted story and the improv roleplay and the carefully-constructed-months-in-advance plot beats. like dsmp was absolutely a very special server with a very special story that was, yes, minecraft roleplay and full of stupid silly moments and dick jokes but ALSO was absolutely meant to hit on some heavy topics and dark themes! like theres no need to give the fandom this much credit, lol, they didn't just hallucinate a story from a bunch of minecraft lets play content--they managed to hallucinate a self-contradictory, much worse story from the existing story that was literally right in their face for the sake of their personal biases and projection and then got mad at the dream smp for staying true to the story it was actually trying to tell instead of acting like a lesser conduit of the fans' wishes and sacrificing a cohesive plot for popularity points and views. like, don't get me wrong, the dsmp is far from perfect, there are parts of the story that i enjoy far more than others, and it definitely has its own flaws and weaknesses. but god damn if it's not still a story that affected a HECK of a lot of people (even if people might be desperate to act like they dgaf nowadays) while being, yes, a minecraft roleplay server
#also not to put any other minecraft servers on blast (lol) but the successes of dsmp really also show how#minecraft roleplay as a concept isnt something that has to be meaningless and shallow#and can be used as a really cool medium to do some really cool stuff#as long as you give it the room to breathe and develop#like minecraft roleplay isn't doomed to fail bc it's minecraft roleplay sometimes people are just bad at what theyre trying to do#^ yeah im shading a different server but shh#disk horse#tw negativity#tw discourse
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Stop your bullshit, and be a better roleplayer and human being.
One big problem that the RPC has these days is that people keep trying to roleplay like this: *Muses having a heated conversation with one another* Them: *Is an asshole to someone's muse* Other persons muse: *Is an asshole back to them* Them: D: NOOOOO! YOU CAN't DO THAT! Their friends' muses: *viciously attack the other person's muse without the context needed or awareness of how anything started here*
And then you step into other territory at times. Not only. Are these roleplayers making it difficult for you to properly play your muse? But if this roleplayer also happens to be popular, or been in a group longer, or in a community longer. Or their muses themself is well-liked by other muses and muns in the Rp. These roleplayers will as a group gang up on one muse and then get mad if that muse doesn't back down.
This would not be a problem if everyone in the group understood that this is roleplaying and disputes and disagreements happen. But many roleplayers of today do not seem to understand this. That their muses having conflict with other muses is going to happen. That not all muses are going to like your muse, and that's okay. That all muns are not going to like you or your muse, and that's okay.
What is not okay is mistreating someone because you dislike them or their muses. What is not okay is ganging up IC on that person's muse and then trying to play your muses off as holier than thou pricks that think that just because they're being agreed with they are automatically in the right (not because this isn't a good thing, this is character. But in many of these instances, this is a reflection or projection of the mun thinking that behaving like this is itself alright OOC, this is not to associate muse to mun, but the revelation of mun using muse to attack players in IC and mun believing their muses opinion to be the only one that's right. If a mun thought differently, these situations would play out far differently with both muns involved coming to a fair balanced conclusion to the interaction, instead of shady backstabbing tactics that tend to play out behind the scenes after it when the mun DOES believe their muses opinions and thoughts are the only correct one's. You get a group of these kinds of roleplayers in one roleplay doing that to any muse outside of the social group, as a leader of an RP you need to have a chat with those players. Whether the opinion IS right or wrong, this behavior is disgusting when other players cannot play their muses having their own agency because then they will be piled on by the group that thinks theirs is the only one. These players are toxic and like to play down things by saying things like 'Well the other muse should have just shut up then', because no, the other muse doesn't have to shut up doesn't have to believe their muse, doesn't even have to play nice with their muse, it's called roleplaying, and leaders out here who have participated in, or let players participate in that engagement between your players, you need to cut that shit out. ASAP.). This is not always the case. Stop being ignorant about these interactions. In character or out. These interactions are a fact of life. Brigading to get a player kicked because you cannot personally overgrow your own inability to understand these interactions and moral complexities of humanity is not the other players' fault. Or the fault of the muse they are playing.
This works on many levels. But at the end of the day, when the mun playing a muse becomes the victim of the aftermath of one of these interactions it has crossed a line. Many of you need to grow up and stop associating mun with the muse and separate yourselves from yours in a manner that you can understand how and why the other person would be playing their muse as they are. The RPC is for everyone. If you don't like someone or a muse, because of such petty shit, how are you going to protect the rest of the community from those who are a real danger? Because the pendulum always swings by, guys.
What you are doing to your fellow roleplayers today, will be done to you one day. You will have to deal with the consequences of your actions. Only as the years go by, it will grow worse. It will inevitably make what you do not want to happen, happen. You will have chased away all the decent players just because you couldn't be bothered to take a moment of your time during an IC dispute to recognize that neither of you, the muns, hates each other, or should. Neither of you, the muns, needs to bitch and complain to the leaders of your group because you could not be grown enough to recognize that not all roleplayers play the same way you do. But you are both in the same roleplay.
If you don't like where a conversation is going with your muse and another. It's not the other muse's job to stop talking. It is definitely not the other muns job to make their muse stop talking. This is natural engagement and many people understand that the muns not attacking people just because their muse isn't the friendliest or argumentative. These things are part of people everywhere. People are argumentative. People don't shut up just because you want them to. They don't obey you just because you can't deal with the moment you involve yourself. It is your job as the mun to look at it and decide if it's worth your emotional toll to spend on it. And if not, you're the one that needs to have your muse shut up. Stop shifting the blame onto the other mun for having fun just because you weren't.
If such interactions with your muse aren't something you want, stop getting involved in them. Or kindly ask the other mun to avoid those interactions with your muse. It's that simple. Communication is very fucking important, and it's a shame a lot of you can't get that in your heads. You are the master of how your interactions go. Communicate that you don't like something if you don't. Stop expecting people to read your mind just because you're a 'shy baby UwU' who thinks that people should step in and save you or your muses from conflict. They don't have to, and you don't need it. If you have communicated your boundary with a mun who refuses to listen, that's when you go to the leaders of your group. Your petty bullshit where you sob and whine to your group leader first is not only a hassle and a burden on the entire group who now has to cater to your whiney ass, but now they have to have a conversation with the mun you should have spoken to first. Most muns appreciate when you communicate with them first, it's a sign of trust. And once trust is broken between players it's only a matter of time before shit starts falling apart.
So take some responsibility, people. Stop destroying your communities over some petty shit that you could easily prevent by communicating clearly and easily what you want. Shyness shouldn't be an excuse, if you want a mod to mediate for you, fine. But just keep in mind what that projects when it comes to the other mun. Keep in mind how you are not the perfect mun either. None of you are. You are all writers in a fucking roleplay. You all had to pass the same test to get in there. Start treating each other better. Stop attacking each other every couple of days or weeks because you can't understand that not every conflict is fucking about you. It's not. If it's with your muse it's because your muse has done something. Most people, mun or muse, don't just wake up one day and decide to hate someone for no reason. So many of the roleplayers in these communities are behaving like sociopaths and narcissists and it's gross. They aren't.
But for some unknown reason, they have picked up these behaviors along the way which makes it hard to differentiate between who really is, and who just thinks it's cool to be. It's not cool. Stop it. Be a fucking decent human being, that's all you have to do. Many of you are failing at that these days. Whether it be in roleplays toward each other, or in society at large. Stop it. It's not funny. It's not cool. You look gross. The rest of us hate you. We don't want to hate you. Because we get it, we've all been a little self-centered prick before. But the thing is eventually we grew out of it. Not anymore though. A lot of you have stayed frozen in this state and you've kept others frozen in this state. Hindering your own ability to write, and theirs.
If you didn't like reading this and actually bothered to truck your way through to the end, then here's a little hint, you might be the type of people focused on here. If it is, it's time to stop doing this. If you know someone who does this and have been a part of it you need to stop and you need to help your friends stop. Recognize that this is bullying. This is toxic behavior. If they won't be your friend anymore because they can't help themselves, and refuse change, cut them off. There are other people out there who don't need to be bullies to get ahead. Neither do you. Because this is not healthy behavior to be in the presence of. This isn't to make you feel bad. But good if it does that means you recognize something is wrong. This is a wake-up call. You need to stop participating in this behavior. It's not cool. It's not funny. It is juvenile. It doesn't matter if you are 18 - 55 as a roleplayer doing this. This is not how you should be behaving. Whoever taught you to engage with anyone this way was wrong. Whether that be anyone you spoke to when you first started writing telling you you had to act this way, or whether it was you, deciding that being this way was cooler or easier (or whatever other reason for doing this kind of thing) than making a friend.
The truth is it's not. You don't need to tear someone else down, to be a good roleplayer. You don't need to make everything go exactly your way to be a good roleplayer. How you become a good roleplayer (And even better person) is how well you treat your fellow roleplayer. How well you understand them. How willing you are to let them be as creative as you want to be yourself. You may not have all the same prowess as them, or tools, or wordsmithing. But any good roleplayer will love you without needing all of that, they just want someone who is not going to make this hobby harder than it needs to be. Because this is supposed to be a relaxing and fun hobby, so many roleplayers as mentioned above have made it into a stressful, competitive, and aggressive boxing ring where some of the players have decided to hide razors in their gloves instead of playing fair.
Stop competing with other players if you lose against another muse/mun you're writing against your losing the gold medal (it's not that fucking serious guys) and start writing because you want to have fun as much as the other player does. This hobby isn't always all about you and your muses, other people exist and partake in it every single day. The players mentioned above cannot conceptualize the idea that other people exist outside themselves and their muse, or their friends, and their friend's muses. They aren't there to serve to make them happy. I'm not here to write for someone who cannot consider for a moment the thought and care that goes into writing my muse and just because my muse would disagree with yours doesn't make them a horrible wicked person and it doesn't make your muse one either. Allow your muse to be disagreed with. Allow yourself to write a muse that can be wrong that can make a mistake and not be able to accept they made it. Why are we acting like muses arguing with each other is the mun projecting that onto their muse? Start asking yourself where those thoughts are coming from. At some point, you may reach a very important conclusion. You're the one that's been projecting onto your muse. Making them self-inserts because of your own beliefs conflicting with another muse.
If you don't see that as happening, check in with the other mun. See how they think, and ask them how they feel about the engagement. Stop acting like you're always under attack or that your muses are always in the right, just because you think they are. They might be, they might not be. You have to listen to other people's thoughts too, though. You or your muse even, let your muse reflect on their stances when opposed instead of just jumping to the defensive just because you agree with your muse. Other people don't have to, and some muns tend to not write their muses as doing so if they are writing a muse that does believe differently from yours. It's the same as dealing with each other. I might not believe the tooth fairy exists. But that doesn't mean Johnny doesn't and no matter how many times I tell him his moms putting that bill under his pillow when he lost a tooth he won't believe me. He just cannot believe me....
If you're going to write someone like Johnny, you have to be prepared to have someone write someone like me. The matter of opinion is ever-changing. What's written as truth today may be discovered as wrong tomorrow. Your muse will be wrong sometimes and your writing them fighting about it bitterly is only going to make most interactions with another muse worse, and that's okay. As long as you understand that if you also believe what bullshit your muse is saying, you can also be wrong, and that doesn't mean you have to get the other mun kicked out of a roleplay just because you have some authority to do so and didn't like their muse arguing with yours over a point you or your muse may or may not write about. Either get over it and move on or stop engaging and go live out the rest of your life going "Phfft, what a stupid person that muse is." just don't bring it into OOC because that's not you or your muse's fucking business to be dictating other peoples opinions by force muse or mun. But I keep fucking seeing these roleplayers doing this shit all the damn time and it's like they don't even see the problem with all this absolute trash behavior they are putting on.
Cool, so you have five fucking people on your side, and that one mun writing a muse that won't agree with your muse is annoying you because everyone should love your muse-- what the fuck....uh,. no? No not every muse has to love your muse. Not every mun has to love your muse. Your muse is honestly probably hot fucking garbage and your friends are probably fucking ignorant to the fact they can dislike your muse, too, and still like you. You're all a bunch of shady bitches though so who the fuck can ever tell you might just all like sitting in a circle masturbating on the thoughts of how awesome all your muses are and how perfect you are, who knows, who even gives a shit honestly. The point is, shut the fuck up stop acting like your shits the best ever, and let other people write the way they want to write if it's not actively hurting anyone but your personal feelings about how you're not the best thing in the roleplay and how dare someone not be nice to your muse. Fuck you. And fuck your muse. And your silly little friends who help treat other people like shit can go fuck themselves too. You make everyone sick and want to flee to a different planet. But we have to realize. We don't have to flee to a different space just to take these fuckers down. All you really have to do is not let them lead you on with their bullshit and stop turning on other players who aren't part of their usual cliques. That's how you get the RPC back to its usual standard of things lasting for more than a few months. Aren't you fucking sick of that?
You'll enter a fresh roleplay and usually within a few months you have players like this or players who constantly bubble but get mad if you don't include them or some stupid ass shit that is just so impossibly mind-numbing insane and it feels so stressful roleplaying against these people but you feel obligated to because your in a group together. Alright. Well, these people have no sense of that in their thick skulls. They literally only have "Me, get what I want! Me! Have my muse be the best ever. Me! Want all the threads!" They are assholes and the leaders have got to start fucking bringing them down to ground level with the rest of us. Because if you let these players go for too long thinking the sun only shines out of their assholes then you have a bunch of surmounting issues coming. You don't have to kick these people or treat them badly either. You just have to ignore them a lot of the time when they start kicking up dust about things not going how they want in interactions between their muses and others. If the mun is misbehaving, reprimand accordingly. Time outs. Warnings. Removal from the whole RP once, maybe twice.
Then just downright ban them. Most of the leaders of roleplays won't do that though. Because they are often afraid of these kinds of roleplayers. These roleplayers also have a tendency to go on to spread lies about the group leaders or the other muns of a group and they are always the victim. This is why I call them acting like narcissists. Because this is a key component of their toolkits. They like to start shit, get backlash, then throw a fit about it. Not just once or twice, no. This is every single day with them behaving like this. They treat their muse like they are the main character in the entire group, and they and their friend's muses are all that should get any event progress or special treatment and focus above all other players in the roleplay. If you don't give them that focus some of these muses even have little protests on the mun's behavior who will sit there and either write to the leader, in the OOC, or in IC with their muse about how 'boring' everything else is because their muses aren't involved or as involved as they want them to be.
They won't try to involve their muses in anything themselves either. You have to be the one to ask. You have to be the one to come up with the ideas. There are so many tricks these people pull and it's easier to see them once you know who they are and all it takes is looking at how they write their muses. Here's one very easy tell. If your muses are in fact arguing with them. They say something mean or insensitive. The muses they are writing usually become excessively violent or insulting toward the other muse. Now if the other mun muse reacts the same way, that's just two of the same roleplayer type. But if the other mun's muse reacts in a more relaxed way and manages to not be bothered by the exaggeration the other mun is going to great lengths with their muses reaction then you have more than likely identified your bad apple roleplayer. Because these players cannot help themselves. Their muses have to be excessively aggressive or violent when provoked, they cannot help themselves. They for some reason think that this is how you play a character that's been made to be upset. It could be. But a little offhanded comment or such shouldn't immediately warrant threatening another muse's life over.
Especially if it's one of the first interactions these characters are having. That's if you're trying to play a muse whose temper is notably bonkers by the muse on description. Not many of these kinds of roleplayers add that into their muse's bios. Because these muns don't actually follow their own muses' personality traits when they are more than likely just projecting their own personal feelings and morals into the muses anyway. These muns just love to try and their muse says the most savage string of violence-laced words and does not think about the actual logic in them. And their friends will write their muses eating that shit up because none of them share more than a single brain cell between each other. That's why people get kicked out though. Because most leaders also don't share much brainpower to decipher that. They just get a whole "This player did this with their muse and I feel so attacked right now." And the leader won't think about it much further than "Stop having your difficult muse be difficult. They are supposed to heel like any other muse to that muse." Even if it would not make any logical sense. These people couldn't follow a fucking character sheet if you taped the goddamn thing to their fucking glasses.
That's really how you start to identify them. They don't usually serve as one. Many of them even form from scratch in a server. But they all, almost always, portray the stupidest fucking muses you could ever imagine interacting with. Like if you tell these people muses that they are about to walk on a minefield, this motherfucker will have their muse be like "Oh well he knows ballet, go Johnny, show em your moves" or some shit and by the time the scenes finished Johnny has magically danced his way through a minefield. Because he's sooo awesome. He's sooo cool. I'm not even jealous either. I find these players amusing when I'm not at the speartip of their inane clusterfucks of making everything about them and their muses personally. I recognize them for what they are, clowns. But they can be very dangerous clowns if you let them stew in that tendency to whip an entire group into a frenzy on their behalf and gang up on one muse.
You may be like "Ah well that's just because that player that's being ganged up on must be annoying. It must be their fault for writing a difficult muse, right?" No. It's not. It's not that muns fault. It's not that muse's fault. The players who are writing this ganging up on for malicious intent are the ones at fault and we often ignore it because we are told if we say anything that we're the problem. Or we soon become the target of it, too. None of us should have to put up with this domineering type of roleplayer when it turns into something like that. IC or OOC is the same. This isn't right. This isn't how a roleplay functions. All the muses matter, all the muns matter. They are all equal parts of the machine. These players are not the arbiters which should be anything more or less than that. The leaders need to educate themselves on how these players are in their RP because not only do they attack and single out the average mun outside of their groups. But they will also attack the leaders by accusing things like bubbling when it's clear they are the ones bubbling and not trying to interact with other players. Or they will pit you against each other. Or they will threaten you with leaving en masse if you don't do what they want.
I've watched these people do this time and time again. I've told roleplayer leaders about these players. I usually get told by the leaders that they don't know what to do with those players. You reprimand them. You make sure that they are not treated any better than any other roleplayer. If need be, you remove them if they do not follow your rules. Because that is the only thing between your roleplay being kept together and total anarchy with these players. Who will ask that you break your own rules to cater to them? Like when they start drama with another mun. But make it that mun's fault. These players do this, and often. I am not kidding right now. It is one of their most malicious tactics. They will get rid of all your supportive players. To where you only have them and then they will fucking not do anything. They won't really write. If they do, they only write to themselves. They only want to do the events they want to do.
They won't let you do any other ones. They will mini-protest the shit out of you if you do. But what should you do, if you punish one of them they'll all leave, right? Good. Fucking let them. Advertise your shit till you find players who want to interact with each other. Who wants to build on the world you have presented to them. Who doesn't want to take vacations away from it and text back to the main chat "Ahh this is a nice day on the beach, its a shame some of you couldn't come because I didn't invite you." text. Fuck those players. They deserve to be on the same playing field with the rest of us and if they don't fucking like it, they can go jerk off to each other in a different group. If you're a mun who started their own roleplay group that also is this kind of roleplayer. You have to stop behaving like this. The worst version of this is a leader who is that roleplayer. Because they still fall into the same trappings as those who aren't. You're not exempt from these guys just because you're part of the group. They will and have done it to leaders like you, too.
This kind of shit stops, when you stop it. It doesn't really fade out. It's been present in every RPC community that had desired quantity over quality from the start. So what if your fucking member numbers are low? At least it can fucking thrive better in an environment with control rather than one thrown into total disarray by these dipshit roleplayers who think they are better than others. I'd rather have a group of dedicated roleplayers who couldn't string a perfect grammatically correct couple of sentences together. The princess 'let's bully others for fun while we pretend to roleplay' and her court jesters destroying the RP after only a few months of it being active. They should find a different hobby or they should learn to be better roleplayers in this one. No more 'oh that's just how things are.'. No it's not and it doesn't have to be that way. Fuck those guys. You need to start saying to them "Get with the program or you're gone" If they leave then because of that, BYYE! Stop taking it out on single muns who are being isolated by these players, stop taking it out on mun's who write muses that don't like those mun's muse. I'm tired of seeing it. You need to get with the program guys.
#RPC#RPC drama#RPC vent#Discord RPC#Discord Vent#Vent#Drama#Roleplay Drama#Discord#Bullying#Roleplay discourse#Roleplay bullying#Discourse#Discord discourse#RP discourse
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Lol everyday in redacted I see people like
'people who like xyz ship are gross'
Or
'lets address why liking xyz is tantamount to murder'
You guys are so sensitive lol it's not real calm down. You are not the police. Put down the gun officer! Put it down!! You don't like it smile and wave. Youre all the original haters. You dictate more what other people can and can't like then actually go and like anything yourself.
Live!!!! LIVE!!!! Leave us alone!! I'm shipping imaginary bad people you dont want me to? Ooooooh scary wait til you hear about taxes
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Motherfucker I did not see someone in Slime's chat say that BBH hates roleplay wtf
If anyone says BBH isn't a roleplayer then they straight up do not know him in the slightest, I am sorry.
Like in fact i'd argue he is up there as the biggest fucking roleplayers in this server like this man has spent months setting up a story full of mysteries and build up.
He literally spent an entire stream roleplaying his character's breakdown
#qsmp#bbh#badboyhalo#q!bbh#q!badboyhalo#like just because this dude is a tryhard doesnt mean he also isn't a huge roleplay dude#this man is HUGE on roleplay#him not participating in conversation and killing needlessly cna also be part of RP guys !!!#sorry i just needed to rant especially since Tubbo said that there weren't any RP-ers in his team which while I think is minsinformation#I know there are some Red Team fans who think BBH is a tryhard who doesn't care for lore#when in fact i'd argue he cares about it more than a LOT of people on this server#discourse
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I thought of something ChatGPT could genuinely be fun and useful for
(heresy, I know)
Random worldgen, Dwarf Fortress style. Fictional countries, fictional religions, fictional locales within those countries, fictional histories. Doesn't matter if it doesn't make much sense, lots of history doesn't at the right level of abstraction. Being true is specifically the thing it's not supposed to be.
The key here is that there should be two layers: first ChatGPT makes up the nonsense, then either some algorithm or a real alive human person actually processes it into gameplay implications. A video game algorithm based on keywords, or it could be a virtual tabletop thing where ultimately the Game Master is the one who turns what's basically a prompt into a real description for players.
You could even make it an "auto-backstory tool" for player character creation or for NPC creation. Again, the fact it'll be not very coherent with the rest of it is a feature, not a bug: you, a real human person, take its output and /make/ it make sense.
I think it could be fun, for a game that's not meant to be super serious in tone. (Again, Dwarf Fortress style - the drama is real, but the silly is an important part of it.) Like that one advice to make up a list of characters then give them professions in the order that players encounter them. Sometimes real alive human people need a touch of genuine nonsense randomness to break out of the storytelling rut.
@theothin @vixensdungeon
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fans are already cheering over "yuri island" but come the fuck on, people. if you reduce these female characters to their shipping potential you're going to look like an asshole. jaiden and baghera are already staying far away from shipping for their own reasons. i'm sure they're aware that people get fucking weird when female creators attempt to roleplay crushes and romance. REAL weird. the two new women might end up being uninterested for that reason, too.
nikki and rivers are not there to be your WLW representation, they're there to have cool personalized stories and make new cross-culture friends like the rest of the players. don't immediately start pushing their characters to be in a relationship together.
#qsmp#discourse but not rlly. more like criticizing the fandom#dont know about rivers history with this stuff but nikki hasnt had a good time in the past with roleplaying crushes
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